Room 23

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=Room 23
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="The New Man in Charge"
=DHARMA Initiative
=DHARMA Initiative 
The Others
Widmore's team = Kate, Sawyer, Alex, Charles Widmore }} {{otheruses1(mobisode)}} '''Room 23''' is a locked room in a facility within the Hydra compound where Karl and Walt were held by the Others, and Karl was subjected to a brainwashing video. In 2007, Charles Widmore held Jin-Soo Kwon captive in the room. The DHARMA Initiative originally used the room to trigger amnesia in the Hostiles after interrogating them, so as not to violate the Truce. {{crossref}} After The Purge, however, it was co-opted by the Others. {{crossref}} The facility bears DHARMA logos, although it appears to be separated from the rest of the Hydra station. Room 23 is located at the end of a hall. The door next to it leads outside. Behind it is a stairwell because the terrain is lower at the backside of the building than at the front side. ==Captives== ===Walt=== {{I=MX06Backdoor.jpg=200=right=Behind Room 23}} Walt was held at Room 23 by the Others some point after they took him off the second raft. According to Ben, Jacob wanted Walt there because he was important and special. However, Walt posed a greater threat to the Others than they expected, as he had been doing something unspecified in the room that frightened them so that they would not go in to see him. Ben responded to a particular situation with a blaring alarm and people in commotion, where Juliet suggested that Ben take responsibility and bring Walt back to Michael. Ben refused, and Juliet took him outside to show what Walt had done a group of dead birds were lying on the stairwell beneath a boarded up window. {{crossref}} Walt later told Michael that the Others made him take tests, after which Beatrice Klugh became agitated and threatened to put Walt in the room again. Walt instantly froze up at the mention of this. {{crossref}} {{I=MX06Birds1.jpg=200=left=The dead birds behind Room 23. {{crossref}}}} ===Karl=== Karl was subjected to wikipediaBrainwashing inside Room 23 by being forced to watch a video, strapped to a chair, while extremely loud drum-and-bass music was played. Alex, Kate, and Sawyer found him with an IV in his arm and wearing LED goggles. When he was freed, Karl was not fully conscious and had to be carried out by Sawyer. The video Karl was subjected to contained various quick cuts of images and text, as well as a reference to Jacob and short glimpses of Gerald DeGroot and Alvar Hanso. At the time, the facility that housed Room 23 was guarded by Aldo. {{Crossref}} ===Jin=== {{I=6x10 LookAtTheMap.png=200=right=Zoe shows Jin a Zoe's map she wants explained.}} In 2007, Jin-Soo Kwon was held captive in Room 23 by Charles Widmore and Widmore's team. He awoke inside the room and began flipping various switches. One switch triggered the projection of the brainwash video. Jaunted, Jin quickly stopped it. Zoe came inside and explained him that the DHARMA Initiative used the video to conduct experiments on subliminal messaging. {{crossref}} ==Video description== The following are descriptions taken from various times the video was shown as seen by Walt, Karl, and most recently Jin. ---- 10 high by 10 wide octagonal matrix of alternating image squares, with 3 squares missing from each corner ---- '''"Plant a good seed and you will joyfully gather fruit"''' superimposed on * a yellow flower * a pink flower * an orange flower ---- magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns ---- '''"EVERYTHING CHANGES"''' superimposed on * eight various antique coins * a 1921 silver dollar * a WikiPediawax cylinder on top of a scattered pile of 4 CDs * a wood-burning stove * a thick pipe with a wheel valve * a WikiPediaCompass (drafting)* three electronic piano keyboards * a telegraph * a close up of a computer keyboard ---- 10x10 octagonal image matrix with the two central horizontal and vertical rows being two cells combined and the central four cells being combined. The images change in symmetrical patterns and include * a bright white light shining into a dark cave * a Sailboat on water in silhouette in front of a setting sun * fireworks exploding in sequence * an obstetric ultrasound ---- a sequence of close ups of doll's faces * left side rotated 90° clockwise * right side rotated 90° clockwise (three images) * center of face rotated 75° clockwise ---- a statue of Buddha ---- close-up of a high contrast painting a face focusing on the eyes and nose ---- magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns ---- a video clip of the Earth's moon as it changes from half-full to full ---- '''"We are the causes of our own suffering"''' superimposed on * a sequence of about 6 various stills of black-and-white insects * a sequence of about 5 various stills of orange fish ---- an energy-saver lightbulb curves to resemble a yin-yang symbol ---- a 3/4 full moon ---- a bird's nest ---- a necklace ornament resembling an eye (from Turkish mythology; see WikiPediaNazar (amulet)) ---- a speedometer from a 1992 or 1993 Honda Accord with the needle at zero. ---- close-up of gears, probably from a watch ---- a pasta dish; possibly linguine with spinach ---- ImageLost-307.jpg '''"God loves you as He loved Jacob"''' superimposed on yellow carpeted stairs ---- magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns ---- a changing white squiggle (possibly a lightbulb filament) pattern superimposed on * the inside of a factory or similar facility with many pipes (sequence of three different stills) * close-up of stone wall * close-up of African wooden mask * Alvar Hanso in window ---- '''"THINK ABOUT"''' and then '''"YOUR LIFE"''' in bold white letters superimposed on a black background morphing into a octagonal matrix of symmetrical image squares that include * a bee * a mask or face statue art * a black object with a round bottom and three prongs at the top ---- partially obscured text '''"----ER"''' and '''"---Y"''' and '''"---THE"''' superimposed on * Gerald DeGroot * another phrase appears to be '''"ANOTHER WAY"'''. ---- ==== Image notes ==== {="background-color black; -moz-border-radius 10px; border 1px solid black; padding-bottom .5em;" ="background-color black; color white; font-size larger;" !Image !Notes ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Image3x07-room23-alex-door2.jpg * Alex discovers the door to Room 23 as Sawyer and Kate follow ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Image3x07 Brainwash Dhammapada.jpg * Sawyer enters the room and sees a quote from "Dhammapada" ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !ImageRoom23moon.jpg‎ * the Moon as seen in the video ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !ImageBrainwash2.png * ''"We are the causes of our own suffering"'' ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Imageframe6.jpg * magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns. ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !ImageRoom23face.jpg‎ * a disturbing image of a doll's face, focusing on the eye ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Imageframe14.jpg * ''"Everything changes".'' ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Image3x07 Brainwash Video Octagonal Image Matrix.jpg* 10x10 Octagonal image matrix. ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !ImageLost-307.jpg * ''"God loves you as He loved Jacob".'' ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Imageframe44.jpg * the inside of a factory or similar facility with many pipes (Possibly film equipment rotated 90 degrees) ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Imageframe47.jpg * close-up of stone wall. ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !Image3x07 Brainwash Karl.jpg * Karl is forced to watch the brainwashing film. ="background-color ; vertical-align top;" !ImageGrootkarl.JPG * Gerald DeGroot's image projected on Karl's body. Click the image to the left to see it larger. It shows a faint outline of the likeness of Gerald DeGroot. |} ==== Connection to ''The Lost Experience'' ==== * A very similar DHARMA test film, the psychology test video, was seen in ''The Lost Experience''. It included 115 seemingly random (and at times disturbing) images, flashed in rapid succession, with no text and no sound. ====Reversed audio==== * The voice of a woman who sounds like Bea Klugh repeating "'''Only fools are enslaved by time and space'''" can be heard multiple times in the reversed version of the brainwashing video. This hidden clue echoes similar words found in a so-called 'Dharma talk' entitled the ''Buddhist Perspective on Time and Space'' http//www.dharmaweb.org/index.php/Buddhist_Perspective_on_Time_and_Space "The wise know how to use time and space perfectly; they lead free and harmonious lives. '''Fools are enslaved by time and space'''; they are busy running around all day. Wise or foolish, the difference is obvious." * The voices in the beginning of the reversed audio may sound similar to foreign language, but is simply the reversed conversation of Alex and Sawyer at the very end. The following sound that may be described as similar to panting is simply Kate repeatedly saying Sawyer's name to get his attention immediately before they carry Karl out of the room. * The atrocious noises seem to sound like fireworks in the reversed audio. There is a harsh screeching sound, and as it fades out, it explodes numerous times. FileOnly Fools, Backwards Lost - 03x07 - Not in Portland====Full-length video==== The official full-length video was released on the Season 3 DVD as an Easter egg. It is presented in widescreen. Gar6JyV6800 ==Trivia== ===General=== *The music heard inside Room 23 was composed by musical score composer, Michael Giacchino. http//www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=68789 *In a http//www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html Season 3 Q&A, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse said that there were a couple of Easter eggs embedded in {{ep}} which shed some light on the Adam and Eve skeletons discovered by Jack in {{ep}}. It is highly likely that the Room 23 video contained one of these Easter eggs. * Lost The Complete Third Season (DVD) Commentary "Damon Lindelof The DHARMA Initiative was doing all these experiments on animals, so is that room that Karl was in for humans, or what kind of animals were they showing those films to? Like, what was really going on there?" === Cultural references === {{NavMinor-CulturalReferences}} ==== Literature ==== *'''''WikipediaNineteen_Eighty-Four''''' - George Orwell's novel 1984 depicts WikipediaRoom_101, a torture chamber in the Ministry of Love wherein prisoners are subjected to some manifestation of their greatest fears. ==== Movies and TV ==== *'''''WikipediaA_clockwork_orange''''' - The video from Room 23 is an reference to WikipediaLudovico_technique, a fictitious type of aversion conditioning used in ''A Clockwork Orange''. With this technique, the subject is medicated with a pro-nauseate drug and forced to watch a movie with disturbing images and loud music, thereby associating violent ideas with the sensation of being ill. Additionally, Alex's room number in the prison where he is held before being removed for the Ludovico Technique is 23. *'''''IMDBtt0436406''''' - The video from Room 23 is very similar to this 1994 WikipediaTimothy Leary video that attempts to educate and overwhelm the mind with constant flashing images, colors and messages over spoken narration and loud electronic music. Timothy Leary was the real Richard Alpert's research partner in the WikipediaHarvard Psilocybin Project. http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQq_XmhBTgg *'''''WikipediaThe_Prisoner''''' - It is also a reference to the episode "A Change of Mind" in the cult 1960's TV series, ''The Prisoner'', which featured the 'aversion room', with similar brain washing room features. http//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1297982106428970784 **The film in room 23 even seems to use the typeface WikipediaAlbertus (typeface)|"Albertus", which is similar to the iconic font used on ''The Prisoner''. *'''''Star Wars''''' - Besides 23 being a reference to one of the Numbers, It is possibly also an allusion to cell block AA23, where Princess Leia was held in Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope. This reference furthers the analogy of James Ford's explicit reference to "the ol' Wookiee prisoner trick", which is used in ''Star Wars'' to rescue Leia. ==== Religion and ideologies ==== {{main}} *'''The Bible''' - The "God loves you as He loved Jacob" slide is a reference to Malachi 12-3 and Romans 913. Paul quotes Malachi in Romans to show that God chose to bless Jacob and his descendants and to curse Esau and his descendants. The blessings/cursings were not based on the two brothers' righteousness or sins, but rather on God's prerogative. **Esau gave up his birthright to Jacob. *'''Buddhism''' - "Plant a good seed and you will joyfully gather fruit" is a quote from the Buddhist text ''wikipediaDhammapada'' "The kind of seed sown / will produce that kind of fruit. / Those who do good will reap good results. /Those who do evil will reap evil results. / If you carefully plant a good seed, / You will joyfully gather good fruit." * "We are the causes of our own suffering" and "THINK ABOUT YOUR LIFE" are similar to Buddhist references to the Four Noble Truths. * The caption "Everything Changes" is similar to a Buddhist sutra that states, "Everything changes, everything appears and disappears; but there is perfect tranquility when one transcends both birth and extinction." {{Nav-DHARMA}} {{Nav-Others}} deRoom 23 esCuarto 23 frPièce 23 itRoom 23 plRoom 23 ptRoom 23 ruКомната 23 CategoryVideos CategoryIsland locations CategoryThe Others CategoryDHARMA Initiative CategoryImprisonments CategoryExperiments Category4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42