ForumBeta story line, some suggestions

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I was looking through the beta story page, and most of it seems accurate. However there are a few adjustments I think should be considered. (I tried to add you on steam Klow to discuss this with you, but I guess I can just post here instead!)

1.
Firstly, the old versions of the "under" levels are clearly labeled "D1", ie day 1 it is only later that they considered using them as D3 (day 3)content. The levels I believe logically belong between kliener's lab and the canals. In fact, the under levels in some variations had you going to the surface and traveling along canals for small sections and then going back underground. The Hydra was always intended to appear here (according to vis groups), and obviously Alyx would be nowhere to be seen seeing as you wouldn't have even met her yet. The E3 Hydra demo with Alyx is of a later variation that was probably to go in day 3. I would also point out that the fact that it is labeled day 3 proves it does not belong with the old story, as the vertigo levels are labeled day 4, so therefore d3_under cant have occurred AFTER this.

2.
Alyx in the old story was to be met on in the wasteland for the FIRST time, it is obvious from the story excerpt, the map and her old voice files, reference to her possibly being there at the lab or under should be removed IMHO.

3.
Has it been considered that the Antlion caves be placed in front of eli's lab, I have a few reasons this could be considered. In retail the antlion caves were accessed through mines, and you effectively enter a mine like area at the end of ravenholm. The map for eli's lab in the beta is underground and is entered via caves, and would make a logical transition from antlion caves to his lab. Also a scrapyard/junkyard would make a really logical place for you to be given the buggy. Finally eli maxwell's voice files contain warnings about going out into the wasteland, something which would logically come right before you might enter said wasteland.

4.
Why does it say the buggy does not exist in the old story? Because it is not mentioned on the map? I would point out that the jetski/airboat isn't mentioned either and the map says "on foot, etc", as in it is saying on foot and also by other means. Also there are OLD maps with the buggy and some seemingly involving a much older coastline section that ran along the edge of cliffs instead of water (the water being much lower in the old story I guess?) Also in the old Depot maps you arrive at the depot in the buggy.

5.
You clearly took the buggy, not a train, to the old nova prospekt and Depot, the maps exist. You also fought through the gunship repair bay, then proceeded down into the bottom of the Depot, from here you got in a train carriage and were lifted back to the top and left on the train toward the Air Exchange. Your train was derailed by alyx who was either looking for you or simply supplies, probably the latter given she seems surprised to see you in the story excerpt. You then followed her to a her secret Hideout (in the voice files) and then presumably headed off toward the Air Exchange.

The only one I am not pretty much 100% certain about is the position of the antlion caves. I'd like to hear your thoughts Klow, or the reasoning behind your current interpretation of the story. Anyone else's thoughts would be good too ;)

Thanks -Isotope

Hey, why don't you register? Also, what is your nick on Steam? So, TBH, this Beta storyline is driving me crazy. I'd like to have it as a featured article, but I don't know if it will be possible one day, give its eternal incompleteness. I'll think about what you wrote, but not right now. UserKlow|Klow 2250, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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I hope you enjoy editing here and choose to become a member of the community by '''SpecialUserlogin|creating an account'''. If you have any questions, see the CategoryHelp|help pages, add a question to the ForumIndex|Forum, ask one of our HLWikiAdministration|administrators or just leave a message on User talkKlow|my talk page. -- UserKlow|Klow (User_talkKlow|Talk) 2334, 17 May 2009
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==Welcome!==

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Welcome, welcome to the OverwikiAbout|Combine HLWiki. Whether you are here to stay of passing through on your way to parts unknown, we hope you like the place and choose to join our work.

You don't have to SpecialUserlogin|log in to read or edit articles on the Combine HLWiki, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including

*The use of a WikipediaWikipediaUsername|username of your choice
*Your own WikipediaWikipediauser page|user page
*Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address
*The ability to view all your contributions via a "My contributions" link 
*The use of your own personal WikipediaWikipediaWatchlist|watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you
*The ability to WikipediaWikipediaHow to rename a page|rename pages
*The ability to SpecialUpload|upload images 
*The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website
*The eligibility to become an HLWikiAdministration|administrator 
*The right to be heard in votes and elections
*Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users.

If you wish to continue to contribute without registering, please take note of our OverwikiManual of Style|Manual of Style to ensure your contributions fit in with the rest of this wiki. Here are also a few good links for newcomers 

'''General help'''

*Main Page|Community Portal
*OverwikiManual of Style|Manual of Style (to carefully read before going any further)
*HelpEditing|General editing help
*CategoryHelp|General Help category
*HelpImages|Image help
*CategoryMaintenance|List of problematic articles and images

'''Other'''

*ForumIndex|Forum
*OverwikiAbout|About this wiki
*HLWikiAdministration|Administration

The Combine HLWiki aspires to be a reliable source for all ''Half-Life universe|Half-Life'' fans to read and draw information from, and as such, fan-created continuity and fan fiction are not allowed outside of the Mods|Mod articles. Also, all material must be attributable to a reliable source.

Please do not remove talk page and forum comments, as they are part of the public record. Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this '''~~~~'''.

I hope you enjoy editing here and choose to become a member of the community by '''SpecialUserlogin|creating an account'''. If you have any questions, see the CategoryHelp|help pages, add a question to the ForumIndex|Forum, ask one of our HLWikiAdministration|administrators or just leave a message on User talkKlow|my talk page. -- UserKlow|Klow (User_talkKlow|Talk) 2354, 17 May 2009
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==Welcome!==

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Welcome, welcome to the OverWikiCombine OverWiki|Combine OverWiki. Whether you are here to stay of passing through on your way to parts unknown, we hope you like the place and choose to join our work.

You don't have to SpecialUserlogin|log in to read or edit articles on the Combine OverWiki, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including

*The use of a WikipediaWikipediaUsername|username of your choice
*Your own WikipediaWikipediauser page|user page
*Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address
*The ability to view all your contributions via a "My contributions" link 
*The use of your own personal WikipediaWikipediaWatchlist|watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you
*The ability to WikipediaWikipediaHow to rename a page|rename pages
*The ability to SpecialUpload|upload images 
*The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website
*The eligibility to become an OverWikiAdministration|administrator 
*The right to be heard in votes and elections
*Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users.

If you wish to continue to contribute without registering, please take note of our OverWikiManual of Style|Manual of Style to ensure your contributions fit in with the rest of this wiki. Here are also a few good links for newcomers 

'''General help'''

*OverWikiCommunity Portal|Community Portal
*OverWikiManual of Style|Manual of Style (to carefully read before going any further)
*HelpEditing|General editing help
*CategoryHelp|General Help category
*HelpImages|Image help
*CategoryMaintenance|List of problematic articles and images

'''Other'''

*ForumIndex|Forum
*OverWikiCombine OverWiki|About this wiki
*OverWikiAdministration|Administration

The Combine OverWiki aspires to be a reliable source for all ''Half-Life (series)|Half-Life'' fans to read and draw information from, and as such, fan-created continuity and fan fiction are not allowed outside of the Mods|Mod articles. Also, all material must be attributable to a reliable source.

Please do not remove talk page and forum comments, as they are part of the public record. Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this '''~~~~'''.

I hope you enjoy editing here and choose to become a member of the community by '''SpecialUserlogin|creating an account'''. If you have any questions, see the CategoryHelp|help pages, add a question to the ForumIndex|Forum, ask one of our OverWikiAdministration|administrators or just leave a message on User talkKlow|my talk page. -- UserKlow|Klow (User_talkKlow|Talk) 0032, 18 May 2009
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==Welcome!==

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Welcome, welcome to the OverwikiAbout|Combine HLWiki. Whether you are here to stay of passing through on your way to parts unknown, we hope you like the place and choose to join our work.

You don't have to SpecialUserlogin|log in to read or edit articles on the Combine HLWiki, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including

*The use of a WikipediaWikipediaUsername|username of your choice
*Your own WikipediaWikipediauser page|user page
*Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address
*The ability to view all your contributions via a "My contributions" link 
*The use of your own personal WikipediaWikipediaWatchlist|watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you
*The ability to WikipediaWikipediaHow to rename a page|rename pages
*The ability to SpecialUpload|upload images 
*The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website
*The eligibility to become an HLWikiAdministration|administrator 
*The right to be heard in votes and elections
*Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users.

If you wish to continue to contribute without registering, please take note of our OverwikiManual of Style|Manual of Style to ensure your contributions fit in with the rest of this wiki. Here are also a few good links for newcomers 

'''General help'''

*Main Page|Community Portal
*OverwikiManual of Style|Manual of Style (to carefully read before going any further)
*HelpEditing|General editing help
*CategoryHelp|General Help category
*HelpImages|Image help
*CategoryMaintenance|List of problematic articles and images

'''Other'''

*ForumIndex|Forum
*OverwikiAbout|About this wiki
*HLWikiAdministration|Administration

The Combine HLWiki aspires to be a reliable source for all ''Half-Life universe|Half-Life'' fans to read and draw information from, and as such, fan-created continuity and fan fiction are not allowed outside of the Mods|Mod articles. Also, all material must be attributable to a reliable source.

Please do not remove talk page and forum comments, as they are part of the public record. Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this '''~~~~'''.

I hope you enjoy editing here and choose to become a member of the community by '''SpecialUserlogin|creating an account'''. If you have any questions, see the CategoryHelp|help pages, add a question to the ForumIndex|Forum, ask one of our HLWikiAdministration|administrators or just leave a message on User talkKlow|my talk page. -- UserKlow|Klow (User_talkKlow|Talk) 0230, 18 May 2009
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